Wednesday, 15 June 2011

Magazine facebook pages

Delighted to see so many people requesting fiction on the various facebook pages for magazines. The desire to see the return of the short story seems to be alive and well. I don't recognise all the names so assume many of them are readers...

Diane reports that Australian Women's Weekly have taken note of the facebook comments asking for more fiction. So this campaign might just work!

These pages do look like a good way of keeping up with what's going on in the magazines. For instance on the Woman fb page there's a mention of their Summer Special which comes out on 1st July and which contains some short stories. I suspect they are commissioned from well known novelists but we'll see when it comes out. Maybe if people buy this and enjoy the stories they could consider writing to the magazine or commenting on facebook about how good the stories are?

Also noticed an opportunity for book reviewers on the Woman page - email them on woman@ipcmedia.com to ask for a chance to review their weekly Hot Read.


UK magazines which have dropped fiction in the last 7 years (since I've been writing) are: Chat, That's Life, Best, Bella, Woman, Woman's Own, The Lady, Take A Break (weekly), Candis. That's just off the top of my head so may not be complete. Fiction lovers are forced to buy Woman's Weekly, My Weekly, People's Friend or the fiction specials from these magazines or Fiction Feast. I do think there is room on newsagents' shelves for a bit more weekly fiction!

36 comments:

Sarah Pearson said...

I don't write short fiction but I love to read it. It's a shame to see the market shrink so much :(

li said...

It is discouraging, since pretty much all I write is short stories and flash fiction. There are many e-zines and online journals popping up, but most pay nothing and don't seem to have that wide of an audience, at least not yet. Still, it's a good way for new writers like myself to get some exposure and learn the ropes. I'm not on FB yet, but it would seem that should be my next move.

Anonymous said...

I'm trying to big up fiction on the facebook pages as much as I can. I'm new to writing and am reading as much magazine fiction as I can for research. It's really sad to see another fiction slot disappearing.

This blog is so useful and all the writers are so friendly-I admire you all!

Alice

Diane Fordham said...

Thanks for your post Womagwriter. This morning New Idea (Australia) posted on their FB page and are referring the request for short fiction to be returned, to their team. I also had a request for a list of UK mags which have ceased fiction and referred that person to your Blog - was pleased to see you have a list of those UK mags in this post. Excellent! I think if we all stick together and voice our opinions on wanting fiction back in mags - something positive just may come out of it. x

Rosemary Gemmell said...

Thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention. I've posted some short story markets on my blog - as an alternative to women's mags at the moment (http://ros-readingandwriting.blogspot.com)

Pat Posner said...

Great post, Kath. Thank you!

The requests for fiction on magazine facebook pages are starting to grow. Hopefully it's going to turn into something the mags just can not ignore!

HelenMHunt said...

This all sounds really positive, must check out the facebook pages.

Geraldine Ryan said...

Hi, Womag,

Can I just point out that Woman's Weekly is a UK magazine and Australian WomEn's Weekly is in fact a monthly and has no connection with the UK mag.

Also that I hope people feel that they choose Woman's Weekly because thy enjoy the fiction rather than because they feel "forced" to through lack of choice.

Disgruntled, from Cambridge :) :) :)
PS It would be good to have some writer's guidelines from Woman, wouldn't it? As you suggest, it may be that they only commission stories for their Fiction Specials, but if not then it is another market for us.

Julie P said...

Just noticed that The Weekly News has just two short stories instead of the usual three as well!

Julie P said...

Don't forget to join my face book page, Bring Back Fiction in Women's Magazines too which was started recently - a campaign to see the return of fiction in more women's mags! I blogged on dwindling markets and setting up a group on my own blog recently - so it would be good to see lots of readers and wrters join the campaign!

womagwriter said...

Geri - I posted this in a hurry last night after a looonnnngggg day at work so excuse my mistyping of Aussie WW which I have now corrected.

Diane - I saw your request for a list of fiction-free mags hence included it in this post. Am having trouble posting on some people's blogs - the blogger problems are still ongoing.

Rosemary - I will post something linking to your markets list in a day or two, thanks for this!

Julie - will add link to your facebook campaign page in next post too. Thanks - you have done a great job getting the ball rolling!

gaelikaa said...

Well, if we keep up the campaign we might get somewhere.

Julie P said...

Thanks, Womag. I just think it will be such a shame if we lose any more markets. It's alarming how many have gone in the 7 years since you started writing!

Julie xx

Anonymous said...

I've blogged about this today.
http://clairebaxter.wordpress.com/

Claire

SarahE said...

The Weekly News had a survey 2 weeks ago asking readers what they wanted to see more of and less of. I had a story in that week so I used the questionnaire to request more fiction and just hope the readers did too.

Elaine Everest said...

When I completed TWN survey I requested a serial, fiction specials and the return of Dandy McClean! Oh, and less football.

Anonymous said...

Hi all - as a writer and a reader of fiction just like to say I support the crusade to save and bring back fiction to all our magazines. I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to involve some of the HE institutions who offer courses on Imaginative/Creative writing. I'm going to email my niece who is on such a course and see if she can get some support from her peers at HE. I personally have only really ever read women's mags for the fiction. I only buy specials and weeklies which offer several stories. The truth is if I was interested in any of the other celeb stuff or articles I can get that information straight from the Internet. I am a bit of a technophobe though and don't seem to be able to get myself onto some of the Facebook pages so any advice would be most appreciated. Good wishes to all. Kath

Diane Fordham said...

Hi Anonymous, I think that's a good idea about getting support from your niece's peers. Lets make our voice even louder! In regards to the Facebook pages (I am assuming you have a Facebook account) I found that when you do a search for the mag and get to their page that when you click on the 'like' button you are able to type in comments. I also found out you had to be signed in to Facebook to do this. We are all learning. I learn by trial and error, but I eventually get there, lol. I have done a new post (update) on my blog, please check it out if you get a chance.x

Anonymous said...

Diane,

Blogger won't allow me to comment on your blog, so I've shared a link to it on my wall at Facebook instead.

Claire

Diane Fordham said...

Thanks Claire - if you're the Claire I'm thinking about, was wondering if Blogger allows people to comment as guests? I noticed Wordpress does. If you are not the Claire I'm thinking about, I have noticed that if you unclick the 'stay signed in' on google account you are able to comment! Either way, thank you Claire x

Anonymous said...

Diane,

Womagwriter's blog has the Anonymous option, but yours doesn't, and whether I choose my Wordpress or Google profile, it won't accept me. Clearly, Blogger just doesn't like me.

Claire (Baxter)

Geraldine Ryan said...

I'm not sure about getting support from those who have self-interest in seeing stories in magazines. It's the readers' views we want. I'm sure the editors will see it's a concerted campaign by writers and would-be writers and sill just ignore it. It's not their job, after all, to keep us in employment but to give the readers what they want. Unless readers voice an opinion they will just ignore the calls of writers - and rightly too, in my opinion.

Karen Clarke said...

I have to agree, Geraldine. I don't think editors will take any notice unless readers demand fiction back in their magazines :o)

womagwriter said...

So the question is, how do we (who are quick to spot when a magazine drops fiction) get the word out to readers that fiction is gradually disappearing from the magazines, and if they want it to stay they need to be vocal?

I think the fb way is as good as any. Most of the fb page followers will be readers. If they see a spate of posts lamenting the lack of fiction they'll realise what's going on and add comments themselves (if they care!) The fb pages are a kind of forum for everyone with any interest in the magazines, and comments about the magazine content will, I'm sure, get back to the editors.

Karen said...

I really hope so :o)

Elaine Everest said...

I'm wondering if we should be alerting reading groups to the Facebook page and magazine websites? Most towns have at least one. There must be a list somewhere like there is for writing groups.
Which make me wonder whether those of us that organise writing comps could do an email shot out to writing groups etc?

Diane Fordham said...

Hi Everyone, I have written to magazines and asked whether other readers are missing the fiction slot. Yes, I am a writer but I am a reader too. I actually do buy the magazines to read the short fiction, and research of course,lol. Writers buy magazines too! Thanks heaps Claire for explaining that anonymous option - i must check my blogger thingy! And, Elaine, great idea about contacting reader groups!

Diane Fordham said...

Me again - THANK YOU Claire for bringing the prob of not being able to post as anonymous on my blog. I found the prob in 'settings' and now have changed it so anyone can post! I appreciate that.

Anonymous said...

Hi All, I'm not sure if I'm right here but I'd hazard a guess that most fiction writers start by being fiction readers. So even if as a writer I may lament the loss of fiction pages I also as a reader lament their loss. It may seem an odd thing to say but writers often seem to write about 'real' people the young and old, rich and poor, thin and not so thin, people who struggle with moral issues, personal fears, the challenges of life. It is important that we fight to keep short fiction accessible to all to balance out the unreality of much of the so-called 'reality' shows and focus on celebrity. Short fiction has ben such an intrinsic part of our culture for so long that to lose it could have a far greater impact than the editors of magazines think. I love to read good fiction and certainly not just for research. Over the past year I remember that TAB invited work from young aspiring writers. I believe David Cameron spoke warmly and enthusiastically about the TAB young writing talent. If short fiction disappears where will not only we but also the young writers of tomorrow begin? Kath

womagwriter said...

Very well said, Kath. I do hope at least some magazine editors are following this discussion.

Geraldine Ryan said...

I think posting on the Facebook pages as some fellow writers have done is an excellent idea, as it invites the readers to join in the debate. But I have deliberately stayed away from "liking" these because I'm known as a womag writer.

SarahE said...

TAB have put a reply on FB to say the fiction might not have gone for good (!!)However, 2 readers have said they thought it was badly written and skipped it anyway!!! Personally I tried to say what I would want to see - ie a thriller/chiller/comedy etc - in the hope that it will come back as a new improved version that the readers, particularly the younger ones maybe, will prefer and value. I think it's a fine line between self interest and an important debate because short stories shouldn't be trodden underfoot to make way for more and more celeb stuff. But they do have to be good ones - and that's what I tried to say in specifying what I want to see and encouraging readers to say what they want to see too. That's the sort of feedback mags do want and need - then we're all happy aren't we? I can't imagine being blacklisted for having a positive opinion. Hope not anyway. xx

Anonymous said...

Hi All. Thanks for the 'heads up' Womag and thanks to the always very positive and inspiring Diane for the advice for me to set up a Facebook account. I will. I've asked my niece to circulate details of the ' save fiction' campaign to her peers. Well done to everyone who is doing their best to encourage editors to have a rethink.
Good wishes to all. Kath

johndiv23 said...

Don't let fictional short stories die. People like you keep this alive, and we really appreciate that.

SarahE said...

Apparently it's not forever! TAB have replied on their fb page to say they're just taking a break from it. Fingers crossed. xx

Karen said...

That sounds promising!