tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post1398541033813499577..comments2024-03-27T15:56:17.348+00:00Comments on Womag and other writing: Guest post by womagwriter Shane TelfordPatsyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12263765378083045973noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-18414102271059074012017-06-27T00:57:34.577+01:002017-06-27T00:57:34.577+01:00It's no just unknown writers who are asked to ...It's no just unknown writers who are asked to work for nothing. Here's a classic rant from Harlan Ellison: <br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fEGeoff Palmerhttp://www.geoffpalmer.co.nznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-78213388351300983582017-05-30T15:18:33.501+01:002017-05-30T15:18:33.501+01:00Wendy,you state you would 'only ever write for...Wendy,you state you would 'only ever write for payment.'<br />What if someone approached you and asked you to donate a story for a charity anthology? <br />Would you say no, unless you were paid? <br />I recently helped create an e-anthology. Sales generated from this go to a charity. Several kind womag writers were happy to donate their stories and did not expect me to pay them.Sharon Boothroydhttp://www.ryecorn.orgfree.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-14278083544523291792017-05-29T09:00:02.043+01:002017-05-29T09:00:02.043+01:00I would only ever write for payment. Magazine writ...I would only ever write for payment. Magazine writing is my job not my hobby.Wendy's Writinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06960941625432714363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-61482760993559117062017-05-27T15:29:24.700+01:002017-05-27T15:29:24.700+01:00Any payment, however small, at least acknowledges ...Any payment, however small, at least acknowledges that "the labourer is worthy of his hire" to quote Chaucer, who I'm sure got paid for writing thatJohn Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06613106045019025574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-45862340049555837352017-05-27T09:15:36.723+01:002017-05-27T09:15:36.723+01:00I agree with both sides of this discussion and thi...I agree with both sides of this discussion and think it probably depends on how well established a person is in the world of womag writers. Before I had my first story accepted and all I had was a huge pile of rejection letters, I would've given anything to see my name in print and know my writing was of good enough quality to be published, even if this meant doing it for free. However, sinceAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14841199785925347671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-79212605515969535572017-05-26T14:41:32.902+01:002017-05-26T14:41:32.902+01:00I don't disagree with all the posters here tha...I don't disagree with all the posters here that everyone deserves fair payment for work. Yet some people still think £300 for a 50,000 pocket novel is a fair deal. Go figure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-89615645599736132012017-05-26T03:10:51.327+01:002017-05-26T03:10:51.327+01:00Re the above comment - this is exactly the old &qu...Re the above comment - this is exactly the old "first step" excuse that outfits like Woman's Way always rely upon. I agree with all the other posters here that it is simply not fair behaviour from a successful commercial enterprise. <br /><br />There is a movement called "We won't work for nothing" where writers, illustrators, musicians etc refuse to do free work for Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-51378188556168013192017-05-25T12:20:56.658+01:002017-05-25T12:20:56.658+01:00I agree in principal regarding magazines paying to...I agree in principal regarding magazines paying to use stories. However, there are many writers who have no hope of getting a foothold into the established women's magazines,irrespective of how much support they give them.They've missed the boat as it's only established writers or staff who are being used. I find now that many friends have stopped buying magazines for these reasons. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-30434289684434546792017-05-24T15:57:26.126+01:002017-05-24T15:57:26.126+01:00Adding my agreement and disappointment that such a...Adding my agreement and disappointment that such a magazine can't pay their fiction writers! At least Ireland's Own pays for fiction, even if it's not a huge amount.Rosemary Gemmellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09311840205603508422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-56524590163648071972017-05-24T10:07:39.447+01:002017-05-24T10:07:39.447+01:00Well said everyone!Well said everyone!carriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10318328803191272208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-32197174660355007492017-05-23T22:18:38.964+01:002017-05-23T22:18:38.964+01:00Woman's Way - away!Woman's Way - away!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-71151767139538925132017-05-23T20:55:20.645+01:002017-05-23T20:55:20.645+01:00My own feeling on the payment issue is that althou...My own feeling on the payment issue is that although there may be reasons for a writer agreeing to allow their work to be published without any pay, if anyone is making money from the story, then the writer should always get a cut.<br />Patsyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12263765378083045973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-86503186059041276202017-05-23T20:24:52.846+01:002017-05-23T20:24:52.846+01:00Thanks,Shane, for sharing with us your discovery t...Thanks,Shane, for sharing with us your discovery that Woman's Way "is not in a position to pay for short stories." I looked them up on the Internet and, would you believe it, they describe themselves as Ireland's biggest selling magazine and the only women's weekly in Ireland. The last available ABC figures (December 2013) reord "sales of more than 1 million copies a Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02620154904333224329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-59835687398713109722017-05-23T17:44:32.670+01:002017-05-23T17:44:32.670+01:00Agree with you, Shane. I write novels, but I'd...Agree with you, Shane. I write novels, but I'd love to get a short story published. However, I wouldn't give it away, because that would be letting down my fellow writes who write short stories. It would be saying they are not worthy of payment, which they are. Writing short stories, in my opinion, is the most difficult in our field. Good luck to all short story writers. Don't give Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11390738604243703062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-4400950978396610942017-05-23T10:45:01.340+01:002017-05-23T10:45:01.340+01:00Yep...focus on the positive, sidestep the negative...Yep...focus on the positive, sidestep the negative. It's tough, writing fiction!Julianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-62877436470050548542017-05-23T00:29:27.940+01:002017-05-23T00:29:27.940+01:00Totally agree with you, Shane - definitely one to ...Totally agree with you, Shane - definitely one to avoid.<br /><br />TaraTarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10900482271865000642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-85093866010851129152017-05-22T22:58:46.513+01:002017-05-22T22:58:46.513+01:00Couldn't agree with you more, Shane! Good wish...Couldn't agree with you more, Shane! Good wishes KHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-43766684706848260072017-05-22T19:21:02.906+01:002017-05-22T19:21:02.906+01:00Agree with you Shane.
And as Lindsay says, if th...Agree with you Shane. <br /><br />And as Lindsay says, if they pay the staff they should pay the short story writers.Carolbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05578076528292643928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-59814527792159862012017-05-22T19:13:37.948+01:002017-05-22T19:13:37.948+01:00Well said. Many people have written something for ...Well said. Many people have written something for no pay for all sorts of reasons, a non-profit magazine, the exposure etc. But a commercial magazine should pay! I bet the editor doesn't work for nothing.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04631254646368974136noreply@blogger.com