tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post8140800158700585248..comments2024-03-27T15:56:17.348+00:00Comments on Womag and other writing: Guest post by womagwriter rights champion Carol BevittPatsyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12263765378083045973noreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-64650918374138511322018-08-10T21:12:17.271+01:002018-08-10T21:12:17.271+01:00I'm ashamed to say I still haven't opened ...I'm ashamed to say I still haven't opened my copy of WM, Carol, as I've just got back, so I'm talking blindly. However, from working with the trade press in the past, I know that these decisions are rarely to do with editors and all to do with those responsible for making money, ie, the publishing executives. Someone, somewhere has looked at ABC figures regarding advertising and Marion Clarkehttp://seaviewwarrenpoint.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-5259144255971942212018-08-08T22:16:45.960+01:002018-08-08T22:16:45.960+01:00No, they're about as good at communication as ...No, they're about as good at communication as TI Media. <br /><br />UDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-90731471565174718802018-08-08T16:10:09.897+01:002018-08-08T16:10:09.897+01:00Do we know what they have been trying in terms of ...Do we know what they have been trying in terms of tactics?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-6320956359532663172018-08-07T22:10:41.893+01:002018-08-07T22:10:41.893+01:00Unfortunately TI Media wouldn't answer that qu...Unfortunately TI Media wouldn't answer that question, and I can think of a couple of possibilities but have no knowledge on the validity of them.Carolbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05578076528292643928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-91942890652139840012018-08-07T22:08:20.946+01:002018-08-07T22:08:20.946+01:00The SoA are awaiting the return of their CEO from ...The SoA are awaiting the return of their CEO from holiday.<br /><br />They have been trying other tactics meanwhile.Carolbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05578076528292643928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-83252067333642698852018-08-07T20:16:23.840+01:002018-08-07T20:16:23.840+01:00The delay seems to be down to the time of year - m...The delay seems to be down to the time of year - meaning holidays. They are looking into it now. <br /><br /> UDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-66032510462331823472018-08-07T18:23:21.320+01:002018-08-07T18:23:21.320+01:00Hi, I'm having problems posting so apologies i...Hi, I'm having problems posting so apologies if you've seen this before. Has anyone heard from The Society of Authors? I received the group email saying they would be contacting Woman's Weekly but have not heard anything since.<br /><br />SophieAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15124919336025694364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-19305908403229796002018-08-07T13:49:52.882+01:002018-08-07T13:49:52.882+01:00impressive articleimpressive articleTanza Erlambanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02017133397362193406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-55434164622286160942018-08-06T13:20:42.149+01:002018-08-06T13:20:42.149+01:00For those yet to see it - http://joannechocolat.tu...For those yet to see it - http://joannechocolat.tumblr.com/post/176655189086/on-womans-weekly-and-why-we-should-all-care<br /><br /><br />UDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-65092743358586767482018-08-06T12:57:19.379+01:002018-08-06T12:57:19.379+01:00Tried to post the other day and must have failed, ...Tried to post the other day and must have failed, but basically, echo Bernadine's comment. It's one thing thinking that a publisher is busy and has so many other things on their plate which makes it difficult for them to spend the time on communication. It's quite another to feel that they don't give a *$%" about the people who are providing their content, and certainly not Cara Cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15972751301677687055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-90480712334028215002018-08-05T13:25:25.681+01:002018-08-05T13:25:25.681+01:00Thank you Bernadette. Yes the poor communication w...Thank you Bernadette. Yes the poor communication with writers has made the situation worse and damaged the trust built up over years. The staff at ground level dealing with the fiction are likely as powerless as the writers are, and likely having to follow company orders.Carolbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05578076528292643928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-68410715266346308382018-08-04T22:21:38.302+01:002018-08-04T22:21:38.302+01:00Excellent article Carol. A large part of the probl...Excellent article Carol. A large part of the problem is the lack of communication and the loss of trust. In previous contract changes when there were terms I didn't like I could raise them with the team and get reassurance from them or from higher up in the organisation. That isn't happening anymore and it leaves a bad taste. Responses that have been received have been sometimes Sherrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18288574214855156268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-3676047363133073912018-08-04T20:10:12.529+01:002018-08-04T20:10:12.529+01:00Sorry, that was just a whinge about having a recen...Sorry, that was just a whinge about having a recent (and final) story 'fiddled with' and some of it no longer quite making sense. Celiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14247161759331341885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-39500053310003233132018-08-04T19:54:01.903+01:002018-08-04T19:54:01.903+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Celiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14247161759331341885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-14716530524388560572018-08-04T18:59:23.193+01:002018-08-04T18:59:23.193+01:00Emma - thank you. I have been in the same situatio...Emma - thank you. I have been in the same situation as you describe, and won't be submitting while this all rights contract remains. I too hope they change their mind.<br /><br />Helen- thank you. It's sad so many writers are now faced with this decision, but it's heartening that so many have said no!Carolbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05578076528292643928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-67045187560829023122018-08-04T18:53:33.034+01:002018-08-04T18:53:33.034+01:00Susan- thank you.Susan- thank you.Carolbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05578076528292643928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-80621623740475919432018-08-04T18:53:02.013+01:002018-08-04T18:53:02.013+01:00Jan- that's so true. They have forgotten that ...Jan- that's so true. They have forgotten that they need those readers to keep buying the magazine and if the reader is ignored like the writers have been, the magazine sales will decline rapidly.Carolbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05578076528292643928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-17338808435106318682018-08-04T18:47:03.598+01:002018-08-04T18:47:03.598+01:00Kate- thank you. Where there's a buying public...Kate- thank you. Where there's a buying public there's hope.Carolbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05578076528292643928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-5265939764376501962018-08-04T18:43:20.365+01:002018-08-04T18:43:20.365+01:00Thank you Helen. I'm glad it's helped brin...Thank you Helen. I'm glad it's helped bring the situation to a wider audience who may be able to step-up the protests.Carolbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05578076528292643928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-1024919710207273972018-08-04T18:41:00.618+01:002018-08-04T18:41:00.618+01:00Agree Celia, I was grateful Geraldine agreed to be...Agree Celia, I was grateful Geraldine agreed to be quoted in the article. Carolbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05578076528292643928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-87320487453715776432018-08-04T18:39:07.406+01:002018-08-04T18:39:07.406+01:00Newbie- yes the readers will notice the lack of fa...Newbie- yes the readers will notice the lack of familiar names, and if the quality drops then sales will inevitably fall.Carolbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05578076528292643928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-76546325310048348072018-08-04T17:10:45.244+01:002018-08-04T17:10:45.244+01:00Thanks for this, Patsy and Carol and well done Car...Thanks for this, Patsy and Carol and well done Carol on your excellent article in Writing magazine, highlighting the issue. WW was (note past tense!) always the 'top' magazine for stories, as far as I was concerned and getting a story accepted by them was always a thrill but I can't continue to submit to them under these new terms and I won't. But I feel very sad about it. Helen Yendallhttp://blogaboutwriting.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-18910456336434216892018-08-04T16:57:43.551+01:002018-08-04T16:57:43.551+01:00Thank you, Carol and Patsy. I never managed to se...Thank you, Carol and Patsy. I never managed to sell to WW but did keep trying with the occasional story. I’ve stopped trying now. Really hope they change their minds xEmma Canninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14312142423056508464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-4564270668694695322018-08-04T16:03:06.484+01:002018-08-04T16:03:06.484+01:00Whilst this doesn't affect me personally, it&#...Whilst this doesn't affect me personally, it's important for all writers to be aware of the implications of giving away their rights to their own work. Good article, Carol and thanks for spreading the word, Patsy.<br /><br />Susan A Eames at<br /><a href="http://susan-a-eamestravelfictionandphotos.blogspot.ie" rel="nofollow">Travel, Fiction and Photos</a><br /><br />Susan A Eameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06216267529948378488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6539691603325793063.post-90471813163175488682018-08-04T10:14:51.374+01:002018-08-04T10:14:51.374+01:00The thing is that women's magazine fiction is ...The thing is that women's magazine fiction is so important. It is often the only fiction people read. Our words have touched countless thousands of lives. By driving us away (no, I'm not submitting any more until conditions are fair again either), they are impoverishing the very readers who keep them in business. They are dismissing them as irrelevent. Jan Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00471022034388834235noreply@blogger.com