Today's guest is Shane Telford.
Imagine
my excitement when I accidentally discovered a new market for short
stories while aimlessly flicking through my Readly app the other
night.
Woman’s
Way
is a weekly publication in Ireland, aimed at women thirty and beyond.
I’ve noticed it on shelves before but it was never really on my
radar. Once my finger slipped and I’d downloaded the most recent
issue onto my phone I decided to go for a bit of a snoop, to pass the
time if nothing else. And there it was on the content’s page,
‘Reader’s Fiction’.
I
skipped to page forty-one, eager for a read and found a rather cute
story about dating in your fifties, the kind of story I’ve read and
written in the past. Then I investigated further and discovered that
their fondness for a short story was only recent; it had become a
regular feature two weeks prior.
So
far, so good. I decided to get in contact with the editor and enquire
about their fiction guidelines, asking about word count, theme and
pay rate.
The
editor replied rather promptly, another plus I thought, and sent me a
detailed list of guidelines. But before I could begin plotting my
first submission to the magazine, I saw a sentence that made my heart
sink. ‘We are not currently in a position to pay.’
And
just like that, any excitement I had about this new market dissipated
until all I was left with was anger and disappointment. I flicked
through the pages again and noticed that the magazine were willing to
pay for reader’s letters, but when it came to eight hundred words
of fiction their purse-strings were tightly pulled and knotted.
That
got me thinking: Why is our writing so often treated as second-class,
unworthy of payment? In an ever-shrinking market, where it’s
becoming harder and harder to sell a story, why do some publications
think it’s okay to ask us to just give away our work and be content
with a pat on the back?
I
suppose the answer is because some people will sell a story and be
completely okay with the thrill of publication as the only payment.
But that doesn’t help those of us who use our hard-earned writing
money to pay the bills. If anything it’s a hindrance.
So,
what is the answer? I wish I knew that for certain. I just know that
I could never support a publication that takes my work for granted,
considers my writing just a hobby, and expects me to fill their pages
free of charge. Instead I’ll spend my time and money on those
magazines that offer more than just an opportunity to see my name in
print. The Womag market isn’t at its healthiest but I think it’s
important for us all to appreciate that there are still magazines out
there willing to give our work the respect it deserves and pay us
what we’re owed. They are the magazines we should be supporting, in
whichever way we can, whether it be by subscribing every month or
submitting our best work.
19 comments:
Well said. Many people have written something for no pay for all sorts of reasons, a non-profit magazine, the exposure etc. But a commercial magazine should pay! I bet the editor doesn't work for nothing.
Agree with you Shane.
And as Lindsay says, if they pay the staff they should pay the short story writers.
Couldn't agree with you more, Shane! Good wishes KH
Totally agree with you, Shane - definitely one to avoid.
Tara
Yep...focus on the positive, sidestep the negative. It's tough, writing fiction!
Agree with you, Shane. I write novels, but I'd love to get a short story published. However, I wouldn't give it away, because that would be letting down my fellow writes who write short stories. It would be saying they are not worthy of payment, which they are. Writing short stories, in my opinion, is the most difficult in our field. Good luck to all short story writers. Don't give your work away.
Madalyn Morgan.
Thanks,Shane, for sharing with us your discovery that Woman's Way "is not in a position to pay for short stories." I looked them up on the Internet and, would you believe it, they describe themselves as Ireland's biggest selling magazine and the only women's weekly in Ireland. The last available ABC figures (December 2013) reord "sales of more than 1 million copies a week". The publishers, Harmonia, are listed as the largest magazine publishing company in Ireland, printing almost 5 million magazines a year. I absolutely agree with you, Shane, that womag writers should avoid them and support the magazines who do value their contributors - just wish there were more outlets. ( And, by the way, an annual subscription to Woman's Way currently costs 264 Euros (UK) - and 75 Euros if you live in Ireland!)
Margaret.
My own feeling on the payment issue is that although there may be reasons for a writer agreeing to allow their work to be published without any pay, if anyone is making money from the story, then the writer should always get a cut.
Woman's Way - away!
Well said everyone!
Adding my agreement and disappointment that such a magazine can't pay their fiction writers! At least Ireland's Own pays for fiction, even if it's not a huge amount.
I agree in principal regarding magazines paying to use stories. However, there are many writers who have no hope of getting a foothold into the established women's magazines,irrespective of how much support they give them.They've missed the boat as it's only established writers or staff who are being used. I find now that many friends have stopped buying magazines for these reasons. So it's not the thrill of being seen in print, it may be the only option of a first step for many writers to put on their writing CV. Anon eb
Re the above comment - this is exactly the old "first step" excuse that outfits like Woman's Way always rely upon. I agree with all the other posters here that it is simply not fair behaviour from a successful commercial enterprise.
There is a movement called "We won't work for nothing" where writers, illustrators, musicians etc refuse to do free work for commercial outfits. You might as well band together and self-publish!
I don't disagree with all the posters here that everyone deserves fair payment for work. Yet some people still think £300 for a 50,000 pocket novel is a fair deal. Go figure.
I agree with both sides of this discussion and think it probably depends on how well established a person is in the world of womag writers. Before I had my first story accepted and all I had was a huge pile of rejection letters, I would've given anything to see my name in print and know my writing was of good enough quality to be published, even if this meant doing it for free. However, since being published and receiving good money for my stories I wouldn't be quite so happy writing for free. I suppose it also boils down to the fact that some people write just as a hobby and for the satisfaction of putting their ideas onto paper and some people write to pay their bills (or at least some of the bills :o)
Any payment, however small, at least acknowledges that "the labourer is worthy of his hire" to quote Chaucer, who I'm sure got paid for writing that
I would only ever write for payment. Magazine writing is my job not my hobby.
Wendy,you state you would 'only ever write for payment.'
What if someone approached you and asked you to donate a story for a charity anthology?
Would you say no, unless you were paid?
I recently helped create an e-anthology. Sales generated from this go to a charity. Several kind womag writers were happy to donate their stories and did not expect me to pay them.
It's no just unknown writers who are asked to work for nothing. Here's a classic rant from Harlan Ellison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE
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